tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post7769347791763885640..comments2024-03-15T04:01:53.036-04:00Comments on Cranky Fitness: "Grocery Stores Overwhelming to Men"Crabby McSlackerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-27342972030170845342007-07-16T15:50:00.000-04:002007-07-16T15:50:00.000-04:00Hi Sara,Great blog post you've got over at the App...Hi Sara,<BR/>Great blog post you've got over at the Apple! The interesting thing is the way so many men and women seem to sort of like this stereotype--it makes women feel "smarter" and men feel more "manly" for not giving a crap about health. Weird!Crabby McSlackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-68942648259396202902007-07-16T13:03:00.000-04:002007-07-16T13:03:00.000-04:00Hilarious, Crabby. I blogged about this at Mark's ...Hilarious, Crabby. I blogged about this at Mark's Daily Apple (Kery gave me the hat tip to your post). Are Men Morons? I don't think so!<BR/><BR/>http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1095Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16599733839730459244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-83745291236179482282007-06-26T14:43:00.000-04:002007-06-26T14:43:00.000-04:00Hi J Edwards,I'm really sorry I've offended you--s...Hi J Edwards,<BR/>I'm really sorry I've offended you--some of the comments were just meant to be funny and may have been careless. But on many of these you seemed to have missed my point (my fault, not yours) and seen male-bashing where I didn't intend it. Because I don't see men as clueless--I certainly think they can handle grocery stores just fine! I was trying to make fun of the Expert, not men. (Although I do think there are at least a few men who act like shopping is beneath them, and these men I was indeed trying to make fun of).<BR/><BR/>Sorry you had such a bad experience here! I have quite a few male readers, and while I like to tease guys every now and then, I hate to think I've been offending them all this time.Crabby McSlackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-41487060497165767462007-06-26T13:48:00.000-04:002007-06-26T13:48:00.000-04:00What a mistake I made being a man and coming to th...What a mistake I made being a man and coming to this blog via a comment and link left on another site. I have read two articles and what I find is male-bashing. Don't you women have something better to do than make abusive comments about men ? <BR/>First-- Of course the stores want to accomodate men because they are in business to make money ! -- it took a man to point this out to you ladies who were so enjoying smarmy put-downs of men. When you want to make money you accomodate your potential customers. I imagine businesses who sell cars have specific ways to make women feel more comfortable-- because they want them to buy things ! <BR/> Anonymous makes another point. Men don't see shopping as a socio-sexual experience like women do (52% of women prefer shopping to sex-- I know its men's fault ). Men come in for a specific purpose then leave. The grocers want them to tally about and buy superfluous stuff-- men are typically much more goal-directed than women-- esp when they are doing non-enjoyable tasks-- and grocers want to inhibit this.<BR/> Then the need women have to make abusive comments about men- primarily the host of this site<BR/>1) It's men's "problem", not the store's-- see above-- its the store's problem-. If a store was seeking to accomodate women , you women here would talk about how sexism was being overcome. Hear you roar !<BR/>2) The hostess of this blog makes a "joke" about kicking men in the genitals to accomplish a woman's goal. Violence isn't funny. Of course women think it is-- when it is directed against men. Maybe to get my wife to do what I want I should threaten to rape her. Or kick her between the legs. Get it ladies-- heck no. Lighten up, you say. Ok-- you too-- Why do women get off about attacking men's genitals. How weird and barbaric. <BR/>3) The host of this blog talks about men as "trainable"-- insulting and demeaning of course. Hmmm-- how can we train women to stop being abusive towards men? Now that would be a chore! Women never "get it". It never occurs to them to treat men like they would want to be treated.Try-it-- <BR/>4. Men-- fell "entitled"-- they are all narcissists<BR/> Men are "stupid" and the juvenile "Women rock!"--<BR/> Its incredible this article engenders such comments. And these women on this board seem quite typical to me. The host of this blog just picked it so she could bash men--as entitled, kick them in the genitals, train them , its their problem.<BR/> And her story about penises. I haven't read the comments-- but I know what to expect from women--- abusive , insensitive and demeaning comments. Hmm-- lets measure vaginas out to the tenth of an inch and make fun of women who don't measure up. Is it impossible for women to have any sense of humanity or decency or decorum---as empathy, understanding and the Golden Rule are way to much to hope for when we are dealing with women. Lighten up-- I know-- discrimination against women is sexism-- against men-- its humour !!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-45787574599707677012007-06-14T17:31:00.000-04:002007-06-14T17:31:00.000-04:00Musical Mushroom, hi again!Yes, I do believe they ...Musical Mushroom, hi again!<BR/><BR/>Yes, I do believe they polled all the men of Bumblefuck, carefully staking out the Bumblefuck Safeways and A&P's and Thriftway's and observing their clueless behavior. (Either that or FancyPants Marketing Consultant just found a way to get a little free publicity by saying something stupid & annoying).<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by!Crabby McSlackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-84063919898151848752007-06-14T13:06:00.000-04:002007-06-14T13:06:00.000-04:00bosh! my boyfriend and brother can navigate a gro...bosh! my boyfriend and brother can navigate a grocery store infinitely better than i can. almost every man i know can cook over his feminine counterpart, and about half of these can shop as prudently, and definitely more efficiently, than the girls i know. where do they get the men for this study? bumblefuck?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15108749924316433276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-61927381724771183032007-06-04T22:34:00.000-04:002007-06-04T22:34:00.000-04:00Appleton,I totally agree re: depressing big grocer...Appleton,<BR/>I totally agree re: depressing big grocery stores. I'm lucky enough to live in a neighborhood with little shops, where I go most of the time. (But sometimes you need stuff like cat litter and big ass laundry detergent; thus the Safeway.)<BR/><BR/>You had a duplicate post so I deleted it, though it might be fun to pretend there was something so scandalous and unprintable I had to remove it from public view.Crabby McSlackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-7690741404773831072007-06-04T16:38:00.000-04:002007-06-04T16:38:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-31219684012299452552007-06-04T16:37:00.000-04:002007-06-04T16:37:00.000-04:00I'm not sure whether anyone has mentioned one of t...I'm not sure whether anyone has mentioned one of the problems with supermarkets -- they're depressing. Not just the bleak fluorescent lights overhead, but the array of chemically doctored, overly processed, heavily sugared and salted, excessively fragranced, wastefully packaged, insultingly marketed garbage for sale. Even the fresh produce don't look so good, chica. And I'm not just talking about Safeway. Almost any big chain supermarket is toxic to the soul. You survive the "choices" in the food aisles only to be faced with the intellectual equivalent of a lobotomy in those lurid tabloids at the cash register. I get the experience over as quickly as possible -- find what I need and get the hell out. Then I go to a smaller market or local produce store and do most of my shopping there. Mom 'n' Pop's usually a better choice than the corporate food mart anyway, n'est-ce pas?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-15487531804394350952007-06-01T13:38:00.000-04:002007-06-01T13:38:00.000-04:00Thanks for your comment, anonymous!And yep, I thin...Thanks for your comment, anonymous!<BR/>And yep, I think you're right--Marketing may be behind virtually everything annoying about a grocery store.Crabby McSlackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-16411342456920239942007-06-01T10:15:00.000-04:002007-06-01T10:15:00.000-04:00I agree with Peggy's method; it's really the best ...I agree with Peggy's method; it's really the best way to run a kitchen. Of course, if you're also working and having a social life- you have to LEARN to fit it in. Those of us who shop regularly do just that.<BR/>You are right on about stores' layouts- it's all in the MARKETING! They want us to buy more. That's it. That simple. So, we who shop reularly and diligently, know this and still accomplish our goals without too much straying. <BR/>Women DO the majority of grocery shopping; therefore, MARKETING EXPERTS aim EVERYTHING in the store at females. Doesn't matter WHO did the planning, building or WHO owns the place. It's all aimed at getting your money. If you're female and you're COMFORTABLE in their layout/marketing scheme, THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL at achieving their goal- TAKING YOUR MONEY!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-58341767967429928772007-05-31T20:57:00.000-04:002007-05-31T20:57:00.000-04:00Sounds like a very sensible system to me, Peggy! ...Sounds like a very sensible system to me, Peggy! Plus you find new stuff by aisle-wandering.<BR/><BR/>I make lists and then forget to bring them with me, so I do a fair amount of wandering too.Crabby McSlackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-83342154167237226432007-05-31T20:04:00.000-04:002007-05-31T20:04:00.000-04:00"Add to that when the store changes its whole layo..."Add to that when the store changes its whole layout so the places you used to know to go straight to for your stuff are now aisles for other stuff you didn't come for but end up buying..."<BR/><BR/>I'll have to admit that the way I usually shop is to go up and down each aisle anyway, since I'm usually too lazy to make a list. That only works because I do most of the cooking, so I have a good idea if I need something when I see it. <BR/><BR/>When my husband shops he always wants me to write up a list, which I hate to do because there is always something I forget to write down.Peggy Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18360669414917755737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-3453664754344609782007-05-31T10:30:00.000-04:002007-05-31T10:30:00.000-04:00Hi Kery,Welcome!I'm totally with you, both on the ...Hi Kery,<BR/><BR/>Welcome!<BR/><BR/>I'm totally with you, both on the grocery store whining and the pain-in-the-assness of house cleaning. I hate it and it seems to take me a long time even to a really crappy job of it. So I tend to pay/bribe others whenever possible.<BR/><BR/>Thanks so much for visiting!Crabby McSlackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-21947819673332076182007-05-31T02:21:00.000-04:002007-05-31T02:21:00.000-04:00If men do need special accomodations in store? Hel...If men do need special accomodations in store? Hell no.<BR/><BR/>And as a rule in my opiniong (sorry for the harsh wording): people in general should learn to get their fingers out of their ass, and stop demanding always more and more convenience to lead their lives.<BR/><BR/>Or maybe I should whine and moan that doing the housework is way too complicated for a feeble poor woman, what's with all those chemical products to clean the floor, the tub, the dishes... Necause, hey, you see, I absolutely hate doing house chores. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-77735812264513732972007-05-31T00:44:00.000-04:002007-05-31T00:44:00.000-04:00Mr. Fat,Damn, I like your blog too. I was hoping I...Mr. Fat,<BR/>Damn, I like your blog too. I was hoping I wouldn't, as I'm already behind in my blog visitation schedule.<BR/><BR/>And you have a cat who blogs. Have you been introduced to Penelope? I can't remember if she's in this post or not, but she's worth tracking down and getting to know.<BR/><BR/>And hi anonymous!<BR/>I like brown rice but after an unfortunate food poisoning incident, not so much the sushi anymore. You must be a Smart Shopper to know this about Safeway; I will not speculate upon your gender.Crabby McSlackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-26933388478597369522007-05-30T23:30:00.000-04:002007-05-30T23:30:00.000-04:00Warning, non sequitur alert...Hey, do you know Saf...Warning, non sequitur alert...Hey, do you know Safeway now sells brown rice sushi?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-67928919307422273632007-05-30T22:29:00.000-04:002007-05-30T22:29:00.000-04:00Men can shop just fine. They act like they can't ...Men can shop just fine. They act like they can't so someone else will do it for them. At least that's what I've been accused of doing. Love your blog!<BR/><BR/>Mr FatMr F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11986717565032522571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-38293084245506474102007-05-30T18:40:00.000-04:002007-05-30T18:40:00.000-04:00Dawno,Excellent point about the sneaky layout. Yo...Dawno,<BR/>Excellent point about the sneaky layout. You're right, I think they're specially designed to plunk you in right in front of the potato chip displays!Crabby McSlackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-13102434667511770102007-05-30T17:37:00.000-04:002007-05-30T17:37:00.000-04:00Lots of great comments here, Crabby! the only thin...Lots of great comments here, Crabby! the only thing I can think to add is that in general, grocery stores aren't laid out in a "user friendly" fashion. <BR/><BR/>They don't want us just popping in for one or two things that we need, oh no, the bread and the milk and the head of lettuce are at the three farthest points from each other in the store. <BR/><BR/>They want people to have to go up and down every aisle looking for stuff so we'll make impulse purchases. Add to that when the store changes its whole layout so the places you used to know to go straight to for your stuff are now aisles for other stuff you didn't come for but end up buying...ohdawnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01995493308490806364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-78843538151942540002007-05-30T15:53:00.000-04:002007-05-30T15:53:00.000-04:00Good observations, Peggy, and welcome back. We ne...Good observations, Peggy, and welcome back. We need Smart Scientists here at Cranky Fitness, where research tends to be a bit casual.<BR/><BR/>It's interesting that somehow (generalizing here, massively) women are generally more concerned about eating healthy, and thus must shop in self-defense. Guys are so good at maintaining their cars, why don't they (again, overgeneralizing) care more about maintaining their health?Crabby McSlackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-60208151300449997912007-05-30T15:16:00.000-04:002007-05-30T15:16:00.000-04:00Articles like this drive me nuts. Grocery shopping...Articles like this drive me nuts. Grocery shopping isn't any more difficult than doing the laundry or washing the dishes. Guys claim they can't learn to do those chores properly, and they get excused from them because they have women around who are willing to jump in and get them done. The truth is that there is no reason guys couldn't learn the same way I did - by doing the dang chores. <BR/><BR/>I suspect that part of lack of male grocery shopping skills is diet related. Since women are typically expected to do the cooking, we are the ones who "want" the groceries. If you don't eat fresh vegetables or cook anything from scratch, you simply don't have to go to the grocery store very often.Peggy Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18360669414917755737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-36034273073795992052007-05-30T10:13:00.000-04:002007-05-30T10:13:00.000-04:00Hey yah, Jennifer!Thanks. It's nice, I love hearin...Hey yah, Jennifer!<BR/>Thanks. It's nice, I love hearing from everyone. (Though I think at least 6 of those comments are mine, so they don't really "count"!)<BR/><BR/>Anonymous,<BR/>I hate shopping too! Though part of my problem is that once I'm there, I do a lot of browsing, so it takes forever. I have to find the BEST thing, and to know it's the best I have to check out everything else too.<BR/><BR/>It sounds like you have yet another Sensible Male who is not at all flummoxed by the shopping thing. We'll have to alert the consultants and tell "nevermind" on the overhaul of all our grocercy stores to accomodate the clueless variety.Crabby McSlackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-39514360114499617892007-05-30T05:05:00.000-04:002007-05-30T05:05:00.000-04:00Weird, because I can't handle shopping. I hate it ...Weird, because I can't handle shopping. I hate it in all it's forms. I can't stand browsing. I try to buy clothes and other durables when I see them before I need them. My boyfriend does all the grocery shopping. I just tell him what I need. Done!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-52506055232229942982007-05-30T02:31:00.000-04:002007-05-30T02:31:00.000-04:00I have no comment, other than...24 comments! It's ...I have no comment, other than...24 comments! It's like you've arrived. Good job you blogger you. I'm impressed.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11619288792228194391noreply@blogger.com