tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post2862985062632437323..comments2024-03-15T04:01:53.036-04:00Comments on Cranky Fitness: Dept of WTFCrabby McSlackerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-90081861368441690342009-04-16T13:22:00.000-04:002009-04-16T13:22:00.000-04:00I really like broken up french fries IN my salad.....I really like broken up french fries IN my salad...but that doesn't help you, any, does it?Ginahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12410897346234609178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-76948953976195316442009-04-16T06:29:00.000-04:002009-04-16T06:29:00.000-04:00The findings are not as crazy as they might seem. ...The findings are not as crazy as they might seem. Some people tend to push back when pushed. I know people who intentionally turned on all the lights and appliances in the house during earth hour. The only reason they did it was because people were trying to guilt them into complying, so that was their "screw you" response. Addicts of all stripes also seem (in my observation) to be at least initially more likely to increase their problem behaviour the more they are pushed about it.Brrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-88803911410798326262009-04-15T12:15:00.000-04:002009-04-15T12:15:00.000-04:00and I meant french fries and baked potatos are bot...and I meant french fries and baked potatos are both potato's.... sorry ><Raynahttp://www.raynamcginnis.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-69089270426710510412009-04-15T12:14:00.000-04:002009-04-15T12:14:00.000-04:00I agree that this study SUCKS. but from a psycholo...I agree that this study SUCKS. but from a psychological standpoint, this kind of makes sense, in that..<br /><br />You look at one menu, as a college student, you want FAST, easy food. You look at menu one and wonder what should I eat, I need something substantial, better go with the chicken nuggets or baked potato. French fries just don't cut it. <br /><br />Now, let's look at menu # 2. You have four options, you need something substantial ( which the salad is not) because we all know college students want the most food for their money. But they KNOW a salad is healthy and therefor healthy is on their mind. However they order french fries instead. why? because chicken nuggets are crap and they know it and french fries and a baked potato are both made of french fries, but french fries are easier to eat than a baked potato and in their minds healthier than chicken nuggets. <br /><br />We all know that french fries are junk but if you ask an "average" person they are always shocked when they find out that the only thing they're getting from them are trans fats. Most college students, think they're eating "veggies". ( even know potato's are a starch, they don't seem to know that either)<br /><br />Anyways. sorry to ramble but that's my two cents.Raynahttp://www.raynamcginnis.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-88152167959061263412009-04-15T03:46:00.000-04:002009-04-15T03:46:00.000-04:00What astounds me about the whole thing is that som...What astounds me about the whole thing is that someone thought this was a worthwhile subject to study (<I>what does it prove - salad shouldn't be included on menus???</I>) And the next most amazing thing is somehow they managed to get funding for it.Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01023115170916061414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-70574725193627571312009-04-15T02:37:00.000-04:002009-04-15T02:37:00.000-04:00Who can account for psychology, I guess? This rem...Who can account for psychology, I guess? This reminds me of a study from a month or two back, I think the headline was "Exercise causes weight gain", or similar, and what was happening was that they were telling people to exercise, and people were supposedly getting stressed out and overeating instead. I don't quite remember the details, as it made no sense, and was a bit of a non-sequitor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-82732702452661142432009-04-15T01:31:00.000-04:002009-04-15T01:31:00.000-04:00That almost makes sense, but I don't agree with th...That almost makes sense, but I don't agree with the doctor that thought making a different choice lowers your guard. The whole message that eating fries equals lower self-control, and salad equals higher self-control, that is screwy.<br /><br />I would probably not order the salad too, but for my own reasons. I wouldn't want to advertise my weight concerns to judgment from strangers by eating a salad in public in a fast food restaurant, so I would get the fries and blend in with what I perceive to be the popular option. Not for the control of myself, but to try to control the behavior of those I perceive are judging me. Salads are for freaks when it comes to fast food. I am so pathetic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-11852406925379307382009-04-14T20:46:00.000-04:002009-04-14T20:46:00.000-04:00This sounds a lot like the studies in a book I rea...This sounds a lot like the studies in a book I read last fall, Predictably Irrational by Dan Ariely:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictably_Irrational<br /><br />Ariely is obviously brilliant, but some of the base assumptions he made were so convoluted and out of touch with reality it was amazing. <br /><br />I think the premise of the study you ref might be that having <B>seriously considered</B> choosing the healthiest option makes a person feel justified in, and therefore content about, choosing the least healthy. They COULD HAVE ordered the salad, and they give themselves a sort of smug credit for that, offsetting a bad decision.<br /><br />And yeah, any studies that are conducted solely on college kids? Please.<br /><br />I often wonder whether people who study psychology do so not because they want to gain a <I>greater</I> understanding of how the mind works, but because they truly have NO IDEA and are hoping to eventually figure it out.BCBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03073904727232797021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-18833926802122882262009-04-14T20:40:00.000-04:002009-04-14T20:40:00.000-04:00I'm actually trying to write a post that talks abo...I'm actually trying to write a post that talks about 'control fatigue' and this study looks like it may tap into that. So while Marste thinks her reasoning is a bit warped, she may be on to something. Altho Nina, the stats professor, may be right, too. Still, I think the concept is worth exploring.Marsha @ A Weight Liftedhttp://www.fitwoman.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-43699381008610847902009-04-14T18:22:00.000-04:002009-04-14T18:22:00.000-04:00Studies have really been crazy lately it seems. So...Studies have really been crazy lately it seems. Some of the psychology rat stuff they try to human-up is silly. I also like the one where only 6 people in almost 5000 looked at the calorie values in restaurants. What I wondered was, how did the researchers stay awake to spot the 6?Dr. Jhttp://calorielab.com/news/categories/dr-j-will-see-you-now/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-71743493098081795312009-04-14T17:47:00.000-04:002009-04-14T17:47:00.000-04:00I vote for "people are crazy." I ALWAYS vote for ...I vote for "people are crazy." I ALWAYS vote for that option;) That said, researchers seriously have the best jobs.Charlottehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04339643338071382257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-25777448169890038022009-04-14T17:26:00.000-04:002009-04-14T17:26:00.000-04:00Bah! As a member of academia I wanted to triumphan...Bah! As a member of academia I wanted to triumphantly get a copy of the text for you. Unfortunately the study hasn't yet been published, so all I can offer is my guess at the psychology behind these findings.<br />Maybe the exclusion of any healthy option was glaring enough for some students that they consciously tried to eat something healthier, recognizing that the restaurant certainly isn't enabling healthy eating. And when there is salad present, they're able to bargain with themselves because they don't feel trapped by the lack of caloric options. Kinda like when you eat at McDonalds and make a conscious effort to make good choices, but then treat yourself to a burger and fries at a sit-down restaurant.<br />Whoa, I totally managed to sell myself on my own reasoning.<br />Anyway, if you ever want a full text to a study, email me and I can see if it's available through my school.<br />-Karell<br />kcm35@nau.eduAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-62597099642631487402009-04-14T16:43:00.000-04:002009-04-14T16:43:00.000-04:00Love your posts. :)
I wonder if the menu had pict...Love your posts. :)<br /><br />I wonder if the menu had pictures.<br /><br />If I see a pic of a crappy ass salad and a baked potato with black spots on it, I think I'll pass and go for the fries. But in real life I'd walk out and go somewhere else. <br /><br />What kind of menu only offers potatoes and chicken nuggets any way? LOL<br /><br />Verdict is still out but I think I'll go with people are cazy. Except me of course. ;-)Kelly the Happy Texanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05141980277979631252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-75272473363224390802009-04-14T15:39:00.000-04:002009-04-14T15:39:00.000-04:00Yeah, no.1 definitely. Students = having a laugh....Yeah, no.1 definitely. Students = having a laugh. I knows it!Fat[free]Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09657562694069139967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-14274409730137002512009-04-14T15:11:00.000-04:002009-04-14T15:11:00.000-04:00I'm a salad person, but love the rest of the menu ...I'm a salad person, but love the rest of the menu as well. I don't really see how offering salads changes the choices that much. If you're going to order the full meal deal, and have that in your mind anyway, that's what you'll order! Crazy researchers!Redbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12490627592871916623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-72894067566028924222009-04-14T14:14:00.001-04:002009-04-14T14:14:00.001-04:00I'm going to expose WAY too much of my warped, neu...I'm going to expose WAY too much of my warped, neurotic brain here, but . . . that kind of makes sense to me.<br /><br />If I have a menu with nuggets, fries and potatoes on it, none of those are great choices. The potato isn't BAD, but choosing nuggets over a potato isn't going to trigger the "you're such a bad person/fat cow" voice in my head. It's all just food, and I can just eat whatever.<br /><br />With a salad on the menu, now I am forced (in my head) to make a choice between being "healthy/virtuous" or "unhealthy/bad." If I don't want the salad, I'm already being "bad" anyway, so I might as well go whole hog and eat the worst thing possible: the fries.<br /><br />Make no mistake, I will hate myself for it later, but I will eat those fries at the time.<br /><br />Along those same lines, if I feel like I SHOULD eat a salad (total internal conditioning works too), sometimes I'll eat fries out of straight-up rebellion.<br /><br />So that study does make some sense to me. Of course, it only makes sense if I assume that EVERYONE shares my particular neuroses. (Um, you do, don't you? ALL OF YOU?) ;)Marstehttp://www.takeupyourbedandwalk.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-41065733165665312372009-04-14T14:14:00.000-04:002009-04-14T14:14:00.000-04:00Of course college students would rather eat fries ...Of course college students would rather eat fries than a salad. I don't recall ever eating a salad in college except maybe out to dinner with my parents when they would visit or home on holidays. DUH!!!StarvingBitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11905457524933733167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-1433821415547296352009-04-14T14:12:00.000-04:002009-04-14T14:12:00.000-04:00You know the steak at a seafood restaurant is goin...You know the steak at a seafood restaurant is going to be bad - the salad at a fry house is going to be less than good also. Price will make a difference too - especially to college kids. <br /><br />This was just a lame ass study that had to show something for the funding they spent on something else.Rebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05318594769530526005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-72132486127117415112009-04-14T13:57:00.000-04:002009-04-14T13:57:00.000-04:00My head hurts from all this craziness!!! Who knows...My head hurts from all this craziness!!! Who knows, maybe they are people that read all the information out there that tells us how bad restaurant salads are so they chose the French fries or maybe the college students just eat bad anyway & get their freshman 15 OR maybe this is just a bunch of you know what. Who pays them to do this stuff?Jody - Fit a 51http://www.truth2beingfit.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-51884806215639509512009-04-14T13:53:00.000-04:002009-04-14T13:53:00.000-04:00Of course this is crazy.
The fact of the matter i...Of course this is crazy.<br /><br />The fact of the matter is that we know nothing about this study. And what that says to me is that the so-called journalist who wrote this story for the NY times did a crappy job (I actually read the article). He either should have included some info about the methodology, or, if he couldn't get that, waited until he had enough info to write a real article.<br /><br />No wonder the newspapers are dying!<br /><br />What's sad about this is that, while the big corporate newspapers are doing such a half-ass job, a lot of local newspapers that are doing a great job are dying, too. (This just happened in my own small town, although we have a brand new paper now, manned mostly by volunteers. I love my town!)<br /><br />I think I got totally side-tracked. Sorry about that.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12503183987906575422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-10620175567762967572009-04-14T13:25:00.000-04:002009-04-14T13:25:00.000-04:00I'm betting funding for this study was provided by...I'm betting funding for this study was provided by the makers of fry vats.Greg at Live Fithttp://livefitblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-63002864604668642842009-04-14T12:55:00.001-04:002009-04-14T12:55:00.001-04:00I agree with Nitmos. haha..very funny
Then again,...I agree with Nitmos. haha..very funny<br /><br />Then again, I think that younger, college aged people at more crap no matter where or when it's offered. It's not normal to eat a a salad when you can eat fries.<br /><br />They should redo the study at Marie Callendar's.Levihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07369763028982948026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-4019509930835553162009-04-14T12:55:00.000-04:002009-04-14T12:55:00.000-04:00Maybe it's because the people with the most self c...Maybe it's because the people with the most self control automatically scan the menu for the healthiest option, and when they see crap salad, they think, "Ew, this place obviously has nothing edible and healthy. Might as well go with what I like."<br /><br />But if they see (insert something that is less healthy than crap salad, but more healthy than fries since I can't think of anything edible at fast food restaurants), they think, "well, it's not perfect, but it's a better option."Linteaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-71764030361327951772009-04-14T12:09:00.000-04:002009-04-14T12:09:00.000-04:00I still can't get around it.
Maybe taking the heal...I still can't get around it.<br />Maybe taking the healthy option in consideration makes the diner weigh in all the options too much to the point where every aspect of food consumption is analyzed? I mean, I think the response could be plausible if there was, uhh, mention of price and how crappy the salad offering must have been or whatnot.<br /><br />I mean, imagine having a crappily-made caesar as opposed to a plate of fries? They're both calorically dense, but the other one must have been perceived as a whole lot nummier... oh hey, a bonus: potatoes are vegetables anyway, right?Tintinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00308206223309260129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-49720486019450729762009-04-14T11:14:00.000-04:002009-04-14T11:14:00.000-04:00I think this study is right. Whenever I watch a r...I think this study is right. Whenever I watch a real good educational documentary on public TV about the spotted owl, I feel I should reward myself by renting porn.Nitmoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17108597328135023198noreply@blogger.com