tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post2349025800836609354..comments2024-03-15T04:01:53.036-04:00Comments on Cranky Fitness: Who is the real loser here?Crabby McSlackerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comBlogger91125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-31698070570299004272011-10-17T08:45:10.735-04:002011-10-17T08:45:10.735-04:00The training routine is absolutely unsafe, looks l...The training routine is absolutely unsafe, looks like they're looking for entertainment value more.Quighttp://www.establishedfitness.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-30308723739068501412009-09-16T12:49:15.383-04:002009-09-16T12:49:15.383-04:00hahaha, tazed Jillian...that's funny. My husba...hahaha, tazed Jillian...that's funny. My husband and I always kind of giggle when she gets all fired up. We say she's on a 'roid rage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-82533325344985075412009-09-16T00:46:42.994-04:002009-09-16T00:46:42.994-04:00I hate Jillian. I think she has a potty mouth and ...I hate Jillian. I think she has a potty mouth and cannot control her anger. It's like she's on steroids. If she ever talked to me the way she talks to the people on Biggest Loser I'd taze her.Joehttp://here.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-5998472593168649112009-01-10T07:58:00.000-05:002009-01-10T07:58:00.000-05:00I have just begun a weight loss journey and my mai...I have just begun a weight loss journey and my main concern is my health and becoming a healthy human. This has to be a long term goal and has just as much to do with maintaining weight loss as the actual loss in the first place. Perhaps the 'real biggest loser' show would be revealing what happens in the long term after the contestants leave the show and are left to deal with the results of their messed up bodies.<BR/><BR/>Interesting post, I am glad I found your blog and will definitely be returning :)draw the line 2009https://www.blogger.com/profile/13058376966549711157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-14472749817356184742008-12-21T22:44:00.000-05:002008-12-21T22:44:00.000-05:00via my other half (my hubby!!) I showed him this a...via my other half (my hubby!!) I showed him this and he sent me this. Thought I'd post it. Check out the link.....also I'd like to add that he's pretty passionate about fitness....the right way!<BR/><BR/>Here is something that's very interesting. Everyone is soooo quick to<BR/>point the finger. Wah wah it's the FDA's fault it's the schools fault<BR/>wah everyone is fat because somebody else didn't do their job (which I<BR/>guess is keeping everyone else healthy). The only only thing I see<BR/>coming from this show is positive motivation as an end result. I would<BR/>label this as entertainment period. Do you remember the show Jackass on<BR/>MTV? It had a disclaimer at the beginning of every show. Despite the<BR/>warning America had flocks of teenagers and kids trying to recreate the<BR/>stunts or activities ripping themselves to ribbons and angry parents<BR/>looking for someone to blame. If you spend time focusing on the bad<BR/>you'll never see the good.<BR/><BR/>I've got a question for Merry. What's the other side of the story I<BR/>only see one and it's negative. Maybe the real problem is t.v. itself.<BR/>Look at this obesity scale that cnn put up.<BR/>http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2007/fit.nation/obesity.map/ I bet the<BR/>amount of desk jobs have increased also. The amount of time kids spend<BR/>outdoors have decreased. There isn't enough time to explore all the new<BR/>fast food restaurants that have sprung up. I think what this boils down<BR/>to is personal responsibility. If people let their bodies get so out of<BR/>hand then panic on their next dr. visit because they have one or many<BR/>ailments or risks associated with being overweight. I would hope that<BR/>most reasonable people would look to the disrection of their dr. and not<BR/>a reality t.v. show.<BR/><BR/>I guess if you can't get anything good out of it don't watch it. If you<BR/>expect your projects to turn out like Martha Stewarts or Dr. Phils<BR/>advice to help your relationship then you might also be dissapointed.<BR/>If you watch it to be entertained you just might be doing what was<BR/>intended.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-71081914537501657812008-12-21T18:58:00.000-05:002008-12-21T18:58:00.000-05:00They aren't dieting on the show. They are eating h...They aren't dieting on the show. They are eating healthy. If you look at the plates when they are eating it's good food. Bob even puts whipped cream on their Jell-o. I wouldn't even do that. But I don't like sweets. I think I only eat Jell-o on Thanksgiving with cranberries in it. Yummy!! But anyway. The show promotes healthy weight loss and ,yes, perhaps a pretty intense work out which may not be for everybody but it is for those who chose to get on the show. Those who prefer less intense work outs should well, do less intense work outs. The point that they say over and over is just get out and do SOMETHING. There is a large part of the U.S. that don't do anything. Really, if you take 15 minutes 2 or 3 days a week and go for a walk out side or some cardio on a machine at the gym you would notice an increase in your energy and a boost in your metabolism. The show isn't about superiority. It's a show about weight loss and exercise. Finally a show that isn't about switching wives or who will marry handsome or sexy who ever. I know that when I see those people who are 200 pnds heavier then I am doing what they are doing. It definitely makes me want to do what they are doing. But I am a fitness junkie kinda....so.... I don't know. <BR/><BR/>"To achieve your full genetic potential, the intensity you apply must be great enough to exceed your body's work threshold."<BR/><BR/>http://www.lookgreatnaked.com/articles/articles.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-71694594170984378702008-12-21T11:40:00.000-05:002008-12-21T11:40:00.000-05:00I've been popping back over here to read comments ...I've been popping back over here to read comments and now I'm ready to comment. <BR/><BR/>Initially I was a fan of the show because I found it very motivational. However after watching it for a few seasons I've become increasingly disenchanted by it and in some ways disgusted. To hear the contestants in agony because they only lost FOUR pounds this week is probably the biggest thing that drove this home for me. Their rate of weight loss isn't safe or healthy and its unrealistic for 99% of us who watch the show. <BR/><BR/>Safe weight loss is slow weight loss that comes through lifestyle changes that last a lifetime not extreme exercise and dieting. <BR/><BR/>I stopped watching mid way through this season and I can honestly say I'm done, the only way I'd watch is if someone I knew were a contestant on the show.Diana Swallow https://www.blogger.com/profile/06617104284642930333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-55495130045891050652008-12-18T16:48:00.000-05:002008-12-18T16:48:00.000-05:00I have to disagree with all of you. The down side ...I have to disagree with all of you. The down side to the show is the game aspect. That any of those people have to go home. I think this show is great and the web site as well. I am a hard core "biggest loser" fan! I think it's great how the contestants get this incredible opportunity to devote that much time to fitness and making themselves healthy. I will reiterate that I do not like the game aspect because it takes away a part of the bigger picture of what these people are doing. On this last season the said over and over how 3 pounds in one week is an incredible thing. They encourage and only say positive things to the contestants. The contestant who got the sad face got the sad face because he knew with a low weight loss he may be off the show. <BR/><BR/>Any way. Think about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-29468407602001082582008-12-12T23:30:00.000-05:002008-12-12T23:30:00.000-05:00just saw a link to this from limes and lycopene an...just saw a link to this from limes and lycopene and had to comment as I just hate reality tv shows that make people's lives into entertainment and try to pass it off as helping people - when losing weight becomes entertainment and competition I agree that the values get seriously skewed! Good to hear your thoughts on this!Johanna GGGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08594201473931487490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-16055252838475213572008-12-09T13:11:00.000-05:002008-12-09T13:11:00.000-05:00I hate this show and I refuse to watch. The only ...I hate this show and I refuse to watch. The only way I would watch something like this is if they based the win on health instead of weight. Like maybe increase in muscle mass and decrease in fat percentage corrected for hydration, so fasting and not drinking water wouldn't be rewarded. Improvement in LDL particle size, triglycerides, HDL, A1c, hsCRP, nutritional status (vitamin & mineral levels,) etc. They could pit one diet philosophy against another. Low carb vs low fat. Protein power & slow burn vs Ornish w/lots of cardio, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-14084554657547865022008-12-08T11:48:00.000-05:002008-12-08T11:48:00.000-05:00Great post- and I have to agree and disagree. As a...Great post- and I have to agree and disagree. As a personal trainer I've had many of my clients watch the show and be disappointed that they're not losing like they are on the show. I used to preach about what they're going through and how it's unrealistic to think you can achieve that in the 'real world'- I also wonder how many of them kept the weight off after the show. <BR/><BR/>Isn't that what celebreality is all about though? Can we really expect to get Jennifer Anistons thighs, Jennifer Lopez's butt or Jessica Alba's post-baby body? Everything on TV has to be taken with a grain of salt.<BR/><BR/>So- if you know anything about fitness I think the show can be somewhat rewarding and somewhat inspiring. As long as you see it as an extreme form it can give you good tips on how to exercise and eat right if you don't already.BEELifestylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01944380122661639885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-2729991524615270062008-12-08T11:38:00.000-05:002008-12-08T11:38:00.000-05:00Great post! I have always hated that show from the...Great post! I have always hated that show from the point that they never tell the real story (about the calorie restriction and 4 hours of cardio a day) and anything that promotes "quick" results is a scam in my book (as it will all come back). There can be better ways to help motivate people to get healthy, but quick weight loss should not be one of them....as the only thing that does is help sell ratings, commercial ad dollars and weight loss pills/diet books. It's more dangerous and unhealthy to lose alot of weight and gain it all back! Slow and steady wins the race, as that is lasting weight loss. Health should be a lifestyle...not a race to dehydrate and lose lbs. In weight loss the motto should be "Easy Go....Easy Come Back".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-1906537763951631512008-12-08T00:35:00.000-05:002008-12-08T00:35:00.000-05:00I, like some of the other posters watch the show p...I, like some of the other posters watch the show purely for entertainment value but I think it teaches poor messages. Also, I think that some of the contestants probably suffer from binge eating/food addition and TBL doesn't tech or reiterate healhy habits, but rather instill new obsessive patterns that could be harmful.Marishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06266549894044350833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-65534911922351935092008-12-07T22:35:00.000-05:002008-12-07T22:35:00.000-05:00I subscribe to Jillian's daily email, and it's so ...I subscribe to Jillian's daily email, and it's so common-sense and straightforward that I'm surprised to read the comments about the show (which I never watch). <BR/><BR/>That said, I think it's still better than nothing, but the nitwits who do reality TV programming are always after extreme situations that create drama instead of harmony. But how many obsese people have figured that if that 300-pound guy can do it, I can? That was the reaction I effected on some friends by my own weight loss -- I was the biggest person in our group, and after I lost 130 pounds over a period of 18 months, a few of my girlfriends finally took up some serious carb-watching and working out, crediting me as their inspiration. If I were seriously obese and had no external support system, and watched a lot of TV, this is at least a place to start, but I fear that it may do more harm than good by encouraging unrealistic results.<BR/><BR/>And about this post from Jeff:<BR/> <BR/>"3) The people are huge. We are several weeks in an they are almost all still obese. Hard to believe people could let themselves get that way."<BR/><BR/>Seriously, dude, not very kind or empathetic. Nearly everyone has an unhealthy addiction, and food addiction/compulsive eating is among the worst if only because the people who suffer from it are disparaged, attacked, judged and discriminated against because the effects of this addiction are impossible to hide. With a nearly 50% obesity rate in our country, a screwed up nutritional pyramid promoted by the FDA with the one hand as it distributes subsidies to corn (sugar) growers with the other (both revised after the damage done), and phys ed classes taken off the curriculum of most grade schools, what's so hard to believe about it, exactly? You should count your blessings if you're educated, healthy and fit, but you would do well to exercise compassion toward those who are still struggling!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-53000605292358864122008-12-07T14:55:00.000-05:002008-12-07T14:55:00.000-05:00Extreme exertion is probably counter-productive, i...Extreme exertion is probably counter-productive, if not dangerous, especially to those who are not in top physical condition, but the impression the show leaves with the viewer is that this is what it takes to lose weight and get healthy. Many people whould not even try.<BR/><BR/>Exercise is a good thing for many reasons, but it is not necessary for weight loss. Weight loss comes naturally as part of a healthful low-carb lifestyle, but it would make lousy television--much too easy.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07053134310397139667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-1806952693107040282008-12-07T14:35:00.000-05:002008-12-07T14:35:00.000-05:00I admit it.....I watch. Jillian, who is easy on t...I admit it.....I watch. Jillian, who is easy on the eyes, is one reason. I do find many things about it annoying, however.<BR/><BR/>I am from the Evolutionary Fitness/Primal Blueprint/Paleo camp and think they have a lot of the diet & fitness stuff wrong.<BR/><BR/>1) Way too much emphasis on low grade cardio and "burning calories" as if it is a simple calories in/calories out game and you need to burn.<BR/>2) Weight isn't a good measure. Body fat and waist circumference is much better. This drives weight loss rather than muscle gain. <BR/>3) The people are huge. We are several weeks in an they are almost all still obese. Hard to believe people could let themselves get that way.<BR/>4) The product placement is so obvious. I could tell we were going to see something come up and sure enough Jennie-O turkey was 20 seconds away. Reality TV my foot! Looked at least partially scripted to me.<BR/>5) Time scale is too short. There can be variations day to day and 1 week is too short to account for that. 2 weeks would be better and healthier.<BR/>6) The exercise looks too painful and gives the wrong message. It is like you need to suffer greatly in order to get fitter and leaner and that isn't true. Some intensity is required, but nothing uncomfortable for hours a day. This could scare people off rather than inspire.<BR/><BR/>I would love to see Mark Sisson(Mark's Daily Apple) go head-to-head against Jillian and Bob training the contestants of “The Biggest Loser”.<BR/><BR/>Mark’s primal blueprint would win hands down and I think it would shock people to see you don’t have to do hours of boring cardio or eat nothing to get amazing results. The only issue in my mind would be the week time frame between weigh ins and the fact that weight, not fat loss is the measure.<BR/><BR/>Since Mark is pretty photogenic I think he would be a great fit for TV. A “flex off” between Bob and Mark would be no contest and I bet Bob is in the gym hours more per week. If you go to his blog you will see what I mean.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13704929106479058019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-63842730484992942122008-12-07T14:32:00.000-05:002008-12-07T14:32:00.000-05:00I've never watched the show, but I read about it A...I've never watched the show, but I read about it ALL THE TIME. Based on your remarks, I'm glad I haven't tuned in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-60333131123291136342008-12-06T18:28:00.000-05:002008-12-06T18:28:00.000-05:00TV is the problem. A 'healthy fitness show' would...TV is the problem. A 'healthy fitness show' wouldn't be popular because it delivers what most people would consider to be bad news: to be healthy we have to eat carefully and exercise. Check out what Marie said - watching The Biggest Loser makes her angry, and then she eats! That's what television was designed for! It's one big "there's something wrong with you" message. It's like a big chocolate doughnut for your brain.Red Flashlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04516642207553676622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-20104026809891754702008-12-05T23:08:00.000-05:002008-12-05T23:08:00.000-05:00I don't, on the whole, like reality shows, because...I don't, on the whole, like reality shows, because they rarely have any relationship to reality. <BR/><BR/>But I have to admit, I watch and totally enjoy Biggest Loser! Hooked and there every Tuesday night.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I hate the constant product placement. I don't think the amounts of exercise they put the contestants through is realistic and sustainable, and I'm surprised they haven't had more injury on the show! I wish they'd edit it and condense it into an hour. And of course I hate the game playing, the food temptations and the fact that it is all about the pounds on the damn scale. <BR/><BR/>Still and all, there is a good message here... and that message is that if you want to lose the weight, it *CAN* be done. <BR/><BR/>Whether you are diabetic, totally unfit, barely able to walk without huffing and puffing... the show at least gives the idea that it is POSSIBLE to change your life. <BR/><BR/>I see those contestants working out and it inspires me to work hard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-7740446617645578462008-12-05T20:23:00.000-05:002008-12-05T20:23:00.000-05:00just for the record, i love this show. and they d...just for the record, i love this show. and they do talk quite frequently about how much farther they can run or how much more weight they can lift, they just must not have shown that in the episode you saw. there is a big emphasis on the numbers, but i do think they try to put an emphasis on health, too. for whatever it's worth, i like it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-70514610294619439952008-12-05T16:33:00.000-05:002008-12-05T16:33:00.000-05:00I can't believe that people actually watch this sh...I can't believe that people actually watch this show! I agree with you completely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-50901746041963425492008-12-05T15:34:00.000-05:002008-12-05T15:34:00.000-05:00While I've watched the show before and found mysel...While I've watched the show before and found myself routing for certain "contestants" and was totally torn. I know that the methods are madness, but I still found myself jealous and wishing I could lose weight just as "easily" and quickly.<BR/><BR/>I'd really love to see a follow-up show with ALL the previous top 5 "losers" to see what lessons they've retained and whether they've maintained a healthy weight or not.Amihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04132594195395924087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-1053416535709454762008-12-05T12:53:00.000-05:002008-12-05T12:53:00.000-05:00AMEN!! Thank you for saying, so eloquently I might...AMEN!! Thank you for saying, so eloquently I might add, what I've felt about this show for so long. My wife has long loved the show and insists she wants to sign up for it. I say it is a tragedy that network television is allowed to place people's health, their very lives at risk, for ratings. This show does nothing to foster an environment in which healthy weight loss can be sustained in real life. The winners often tell how upon returning home, they spent 8 - 10 hours a day working out. Who can do that? I have to work. I gave up on this show the first time I watched it and saw a beautiful young woman cry her eyes out because she had only lost three pounds at the weigh in. Tragic. I would have been jumping for joy. Any weight lost is a victory when you are already overweight. Great post! I'm glad I followed the link from Bossy's blog to discover you here. I'll be back for more.Fortune Cookieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17336291956469689578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-65230623843154667162008-12-05T10:51:00.000-05:002008-12-05T10:51:00.000-05:00Cranky,Ok I am a BL junkie. However, I see beyond...Cranky,<BR/>Ok I am a BL junkie. However, I see beyond the 30 minutes of scale time with these people. It actually encourages me to exercise when I see 300 lb people running I wonder "what the heck is wrong with my 150lb butt, why am I not running. <BR/>There is a lot of unspoken things about this show that are good, but they don't come right out and say it. <BR/>When Ryan Benson was actually at the ranch he would have never filled his tank the way he did at home. <BR/>At the ranch they are watched by medical professionals, dieticians and trainers (anyone can argue creditials, but I am not going there). The medical part is not a part of the weekly show, but they are closely monitored. <BR/>Now as an avid weightloss person, I know that I want to get up and slap that guy for being upset about losing 3 pounds, but what everyone needs to remember is they are also up for $250,000 so while they are happy to lose the weight, they are going to be damn spanking GITTY about winning $250,000 and they are going to do anything to get there, hence the Master Clense when they are on their own for 3 months before the final weigh in. <BR/>I think they all get pretty drastic for that final weigh in because of the money. <BR/><BR/>I would love it if they did do a show where they lose weight, there was no voting off (no money prize)and they showed more of what they actually do, eat, etc. <BR/><BR/>Just my thoughts.Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15700720020186831174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-54165547063183029142008-12-05T10:13:00.000-05:002008-12-05T10:13:00.000-05:00Two words - Jillian Michaels. ;) HOT!Two words - Jillian Michaels. ;) HOT!lluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13195027663162051021noreply@blogger.com