tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post1872065007367269950..comments2024-03-15T04:01:53.036-04:00Comments on Cranky Fitness: Nitrite Free and Tasty Too: Applegate Farms Lunch MeatCrabby McSlackerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-47876995737697579222012-01-21T16:49:35.695-05:002012-01-21T16:49:35.695-05:00Oh yes, nitrates & nitrites are definitely big...Oh yes, nitrates & nitrites are definitely big ones to avoid. The problem is all of the so-called "natural" lunchmeats out there that contain ultra-refined forms of celery juice. When you take away all of the good stuff in celery and leave only this one compound, it turns into...yep, nitrates. Very few, if any, lunchmeats out there are truly nitrate free, and the USDA needs to get on the ball and let the consumer know this. <br /><br />Even worse, manufacturers cannot control the amount of nitrates added through the concentrated celery juice as easily as when it is the further refined nitrates themselves, so Consumer Reports has tested levels of nitrates present in these so-called preservative-free foods (as Hormel claims) at or above levels of the regular variety. Don't believe me? Google it. Reliable information is out there. You can see for yourself. <br /><br />Applegate is the only company I've found that does happen to have a very few products that are truly nitrate free, but many of their products do contain celery juice (sometimes hidden under the "natural flavorings" term).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-89537218973015001602011-03-04T15:25:41.400-05:002011-03-04T15:25:41.400-05:00I have to avoid nitrites and nitrates because they...I have to avoid nitrites and nitrates because they give me horrible horrible migraines and I choose not to go to the ER for relief on the off chance that I might get addicted to the ER's painkillers. Migraines really and truly suck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-8283958187809794402010-12-01T14:27:44.589-05:002010-12-01T14:27:44.589-05:00Does this link count for describing the peril of s...Does this link count for describing the peril of sodium nitrate?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.organicconsumers.org/foodsafety/processedmeat050305.cfm" rel="nofollow">Nitrates in Processed Meat</a>Harris Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07889594182800701518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-435861043172737002010-12-01T14:25:47.575-05:002010-12-01T14:25:47.575-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Harris Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07889594182800701518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-84894576842329937492010-05-21T12:50:19.785-04:002010-05-21T12:50:19.785-04:00I'm not sure what to believe about nitrates/ni...I'm not sure what to believe about nitrates/nitrites. Everything is so confusing. I'm not a big lunch meat person anyway but my son is. There doesn't seem to be many options out there for nitrate/nitrite free lunchmeats that actually taste decent. I know that both my grandparents (and hence my mom) on my mom's side ate lunchmeat, hotdogs, bacon, etc all the time. My grandfather did die of bladder cancer but he was also a smoker and tobacco chewer and the doc said the smoking caused the cancer. My mom also died of breast cancer but she was another smoker and unhealthy eater with no exercise routine. My grandmother lived until 75 with no cancer and she pretty much lived on OM bologna everyday for at least the last 10. I have to think part of the problems that come from nitrate/nitrites is the other unhealthy habits that people have that consume large amounts of processed meats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-24337320689962525562009-12-08T21:20:23.998-05:002009-12-08T21:20:23.998-05:00Here's just a few:
References:
1, Peters J,...Here's just a few: <br /><br />References: <br />1, Peters J, et al " Processed meats and risk of childhood leukemia (California, USA)" Cancer Causes & Control 5: 195-202, 1994.<br /><br />2 Sarasua S, Savitz D. " Cured and broiled meat consumption in relation to childhood cancer: Denver, Colorado (United States)," Cancer Causes & Control 5:141-8, 1994.<br /><br />3 Bunin GR, et al. "Maternal diet and risk of astrocytic glioma in children: a report from the children's cancer group (United States and Canada)," Cancer Causes & Control 5:177-87, 1994.<br /><br />4. Lijinsky W, Epstein, S. "Nitrosamines as environmental carcinogens," Nature 225 (5227): 2112, 1970.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-64435430832978894982009-04-13T16:27:00.000-04:002009-04-13T16:27:00.000-04:00they say to avoid nitrites when you are expecting....they say to avoid nitrites when you are expecting...if its so bad you that it can seriously harm your fetus then imagine what else it is doing to all those less important parts... yuck!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-35870623337981430952007-07-13T02:48:00.000-04:002007-07-13T02:48:00.000-04:00Dear Crabby....wish I had stopped nitrates sooner....Dear Crabby....wish I had stopped nitrates sooner. I grew up on sandwiches for lunch every day and guess how many are lunchmeat...oh and don't forget Subway when you're out. Anyways, been having blood in urine for about 18 mos now. Very sporadic sometimes 6 mo apart...but much more often now..weeks... no other pain or symptoms...could be bladder cancer...won't know till i can get in to specialist to test. <BR/>IVP and ultrasound are normal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-31164685568693733812007-05-25T00:29:00.000-04:002007-05-25T00:29:00.000-04:00Dawno, you're making me hungry!Though my weakness ...Dawno, you're making me hungry!<BR/><BR/>Though my weakness was not the Oscar Meyer balogna but the weiners, uncooked, straight from the package.Crabby McSlackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-73244723151517081932007-05-25T00:05:00.000-04:002007-05-25T00:05:00.000-04:00I'm not giving up my Oscar Mayer! A balogna sandwi...I'm not giving up my Oscar Mayer! A balogna sandwich with two slices and mustard and Ruffles between two slices of Wonder White...mmmmmmmohdawnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01995493308490806364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-11687186665628882122007-05-24T10:53:00.000-04:002007-05-24T10:53:00.000-04:00Samantha--I'm glad to hear you learned the same th...Samantha--<BR/>I'm glad to hear you learned the same thing--and I think nitrites are even worse than nitrates. I was just surprised that I couldn't find better research to back it up. (Should of spent a bit more time, though).<BR/><BR/>Anonymii,<BR/>Hello there! Are you two the same anonymous or two different ones? Thank you so much for visiting and commenting.<BR/><BR/>Just to clarify: no, please don't start clicking the links! I want you to like having them there, and to think that you're going to click on them someday, and to be glad you're going to a smart blog that bothers with them. But, no please just stay here and trust that something vaguely scientific lies behind all of Crabby's rambling.<BR/><BR/>And to the 2nd anonymous--Good point. Plus, even if we die earlier of cancer, we all want to look "well-preserved" when we go. (I'll pass on the liver, but mmm, cheetos).<BR/><BR/>Thanks Leah! Thats a bummer about the wheat gluten--at least for a bread and pizza and cupcake lover like me. (Whole wheat, of course, except for the cupcakes!)<BR/><BR/>Smartcookie,<BR/>You indeed are a smart cookie. I actually came across something like that in my shallow research efforts (no link of course). I think consuming stuff that has antioxidants does mitigate some of the nitrite Evilness, and maybe there was something specific about citrus being good.<BR/><BR/>But then I also believe that consuming a portion of broccoli before or after a cupcake erases the cupcake calories.Crabby McSlackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-32407212424631587222007-05-24T09:44:00.000-04:002007-05-24T09:44:00.000-04:00I've convinced myself, because I'm sure I read it ...I've convinced myself, because I'm sure I read it somewhere, that if I eat a side of citrus fruit with my nitrites, somehow the world and the additives in my body become balanced. I have no idea if this is true, but I've been doing it for so long, I *think* it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-54359701774363131252007-05-24T09:15:00.000-04:002007-05-24T09:15:00.000-04:00Yes, nitrites are bad for you and cause cancer. I'...Yes, nitrites are bad for you and cause cancer. I've read this numerous times myself though can't supply a link to back it up.<BR/><BR/>About the only preservative-free sliced lunch meats I've found are the meatless ones made from soy and/or wheat protein. Sigh.<BR/>Nothing wrong with them, of course. They're tasty enough. I just can't eat too much wheat gluten.Leah J. Utashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08497599109798015888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-21456234446590595062007-05-23T23:10:00.000-04:002007-05-23T23:10:00.000-04:00Crabby, what exactly do you think will keep you pr...Crabby, what exactly do you think will keep you preserved to old age? It's gotta be the marischino cherries and hot dogs. Do you seriously want to rot? Eat 'em often. You might consider liver with Cheetos and onions too.<BR/>I'll outlast you all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-56841823928736039692007-05-23T22:48:00.000-04:002007-05-23T22:48:00.000-04:00Dear Crabby,Having unenthusiastically avoided nitr...Dear Crabby,<BR/>Having unenthusiastically avoided nitrates when actually thinking about their heinous consequences, I'm thrilled that I may have possibly made the correct decision about avoiding those deadly additives.<BR/>Please note that I responsibly checked the f*cking links because now I feel duty-bound to do so. (In re freakin' poll!)<BR/>Uhn, you might want to check the "this one" site unless you're punking your readers. I'm exhausted and could have missed any nuance!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-64098159594564270062007-05-23T22:35:00.000-04:002007-05-23T22:35:00.000-04:00Oh Crabby, you are right to avoid nitrates. In my ...Oh Crabby, you are right to avoid nitrates. In my nutrition class (I am going to school for nutrition) I was learned that if you consume nitrates only once a week, you have 25% more risk of developing cancer. At one point the FDA was going to ban it but, the food companies won out on that one. Shelf life on nitrate free meats goes down quite a bit.Samanthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07199405195909496507noreply@blogger.com