tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post1177505012955569797..comments2024-03-15T04:01:53.036-04:00Comments on Cranky Fitness: Magic Weight Loss Pill, take IIICrabby McSlackerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-82696432698954721812012-11-23T14:21:16.322-05:002012-11-23T14:21:16.322-05:00I take synthroid and i dont lose any weight - test...I take synthroid and i dont lose any weight - tests every few months for the last 10 years and changes to the dosage up and down and no weight loss at all. The only time I lose weight is when i diet and go to the gym. There is no secret pill. Sorry guys. A thyroid pill may help IF you diet and exercise too but alone it does nothing for your weight. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-54524501131834126842009-08-05T18:03:31.759-04:002009-08-05T18:03:31.759-04:00Hello there. :) I absolutely loved this post. It...Hello there. :) I absolutely loved this post. It's so true. I myself have a slow thyroid -- the autoimmune version of hypothyroidism called Hashimoto's. And the thing many people and even DRs don't acknowledge and validate is that slow thyroids are not our fault and also, therefore, the inability of us to either keep weight off or to actively lose weight is not our fault. It can be frustrating. How is your thyroid doing? Have you found any treatments to be helpful? For me, I've learned that calories in = calories out doesn't work for many thyroid patients. I actually write a thyroid-specific nutrition column for www.dearthyroid.com, called "How To Kick Your Thyroid's Ass". I'd LOVE to hear your comments on it.<br /><br />This disease can be really challenging for alot of us. It changes our lives dramatically. We have a great support community over there, so please stop by!<br /><br />Thanks again for being so honest about your health and struggles with weight. I think transparency like that is so important!<br /><br />Liz :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-39048267589439077722009-07-21T15:58:19.528-04:002009-07-21T15:58:19.528-04:00Like many, my thyroid is out of whack, too ... but...Like many, my thyroid is out of whack, too ... but it's OVER-active. When my doc told me, I cried, "Doesn't that mean I should be losing weight instead of gaining?!" And he said, "Yeah, but your appetite is up, so even though your metabolism is faster than usual, it doesn't necessarily result in weight loss." <br /><br />I can't tell you how long I was swearing after that visit ...Margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13312649985272686783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-64650953095049176312009-07-19T23:47:21.250-04:002009-07-19T23:47:21.250-04:00I agree that people whose thyroids are whacked out...I agree that people whose thyroids are whacked out are in the minority, but now you've sparked a new thought: what about people with metabolic syndrome? There was a comment a couple posts back by a woman who overcame that condition, but she had to put a lot more time into exercising than the average person.<br /><br />The only thing I am sure of is that there are a lot of variables. Argh.The Merryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09660495393832517684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-22598390640732271992009-07-19T20:34:38.716-04:002009-07-19T20:34:38.716-04:00The point you make in the post that everyone is di...The point you make in the post that everyone is different, and that people burn calories at different rates is spot on.<br /><br />However, keep in perspective that only about 5% of people who are overweight are so because of metabolic reasons. The rest of us are just going to have to do the hard work of losing weight through exercise and diet.CJ Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13401510482132905339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-68068219204983044462009-07-17T16:47:53.086-04:002009-07-17T16:47:53.086-04:00Interesting post. I have been tested for hypothyro...Interesting post. I have been tested for hypothyroidism, and was within "normal" although it was high.<br /><br />The Cals IN VS. Cals Out equation does not always equal weight loss. And, I think plateaus are definitely a testament to the set-weight theory. For example, my body loves weighing 160-165. I can easily lose down to that weight--and if I drop below, I quickly gain back up unless I'm going psycho on exercise and diet. <br /><br />Many of my girlfriends are the same way--they have a "magic" numbers their bodies easily gravitate towards (can drop down to it easily, gain back up to it easily).<br /><br />To me, this speaks to it all being so much more than simple subtraction. Hormones, set-weight theory, metabolism differences, etc. all play a factor unique to everyone.AmyLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-78730411836557879062009-07-17T13:01:41.386-04:002009-07-17T13:01:41.386-04:00As a physiologist I can say that calories in must ...As a physiologist I can say that calories in must equal calories out. Its part of the laws of energy conservation. The part that frustrates us all is that we don't yet understand what factors influence individual variability in the calories out portion. Energy (calories) can not disappear, only chnage form.Candicenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-15939874440886888682009-07-17T02:43:30.231-04:002009-07-17T02:43:30.231-04:00It is inetresting to know upon...to understand wha...It is inetresting to know upon...to understand what foes on inside the body as I eat and stuff in more of the wrong things.Healthy meal planhttp://www.how-to-get-a-flat-stomach.com/healthy-meal-plannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-39683533827831371962009-07-16T23:55:11.500-04:002009-07-16T23:55:11.500-04:00I like this post, thank you. I agree that there is...I like this post, thank you. I agree that there is more than just calories and out in this equation, I have seen it in myself and others.Alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00425148037615520256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-35175201218671032222009-07-16T23:52:10.764-04:002009-07-16T23:52:10.764-04:00ugggggh science.
yeah um, as a personal trainer, ...ugggggh science.<br /><br />yeah um, as a personal trainer, I can tell you that weight loss is not so simple. and when you have to tell someone that is doing so well with their diet and exercise that gained weight- its probably the worst part of the jobEvery Gym's Nightmarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07875612853074371662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-8582697239131954792009-07-16T21:16:02.785-04:002009-07-16T21:16:02.785-04:00When I was diagnosed as hypothyroid, I was fourtee...When I was diagnosed as hypothyroid, I was fourteen and continued to grow for another six years, so weight loss was not involved. Energy gain, now! I could sit up for more than fifteen minutes without propping my head up on my hand. So the supplement may not haul you to the gym, but it will make it more likely that you will do something when you get there.<br /><br />Mary Anne in Kentuckysolarityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03606487180967915130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-48089558230129400112009-07-16T21:10:37.792-04:002009-07-16T21:10:37.792-04:00We are an experiment of one, so in many things you...We are an experiment of one, so in many things you may find similarity, analogy and helpful info, but always, your mileage may vary. <br /><br />I believe the studies and stats that suggest that hypothyroidism is increasing and under-diagnosed/treated. (which just stinks, as hypo really has a negative effect on physical and mental health) <br /><br />Not all hypothyroid patients have weight problems and even for those who do, adjusting thyroid may only partially address weight (if at all). And not all weight problems are caused (only) by thyroid problems. The Venn diagrams have an intersection, but may or may not have a huge overlap. However, some compassion seems to be in order. For some rare and lucky people (so I hear) feeling well again, weight issues aside, is as simple as take the little pill and all will be well, like the docs seem to think. For many (maybe most?) it's just not that easy. If your thyroid is screwed up, your metabolism is too (which affects the amount of calories you burn, etc). It can take a lot longer to get things back in line than the blood tests make it appear, and other systems may have been affected by the thyroid imbalance. It's a fairly invisible struggle for some folks, and a tough one. Thanks for posting the article as for thought and discussion.MJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023439892198039562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-17723431792901803292009-07-16T17:49:30.259-04:002009-07-16T17:49:30.259-04:00Magic weight loss pill... i dont ever think such a...Magic weight loss pill... i dont ever think such a thing will exist, unfortunately :(<br />-Jack @ <a href="http://www.zantrex3.com/?cid=2f8961bfab004530" rel="nofollow">Energy Pill</a>0s0-Pahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07958836941549927875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-56634279980498813342009-07-16T16:22:17.956-04:002009-07-16T16:22:17.956-04:00Merry and Crabby. I am so sorry. It is Thursday,...Merry and <i>Crabby</i>. I am so sorry. It is Thursday, and I am sleep-depped, as usual.littlemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03718332143368553659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-16784022354417730802009-07-16T16:21:14.743-04:002009-07-16T16:21:14.743-04:00Hey - where's the CU16, or whatever that one w...Hey - where's the CU16, or whatever that one was where if you're actually sticking to your workout plan you can increase your oxygen capacity, and if you're in a couch potato phase you can still fool your doctor with an increased VO2 max?<br /><br />Merry and Cranky, I remember you all did cover that, and I will sit and wait patiently for that one.<br /><br />*sits, waits*littlemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03718332143368553659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-75560035289546461312009-07-16T16:09:14.004-04:002009-07-16T16:09:14.004-04:00This post is very timely for me. I've hit a we...This post is very timely for me. I've hit a weight loss plateau that's persisted through calorie cutting and upping my workout schedule. Nothing I do seems to help. Perhaps it's time to schedule a doctors appointment...Meghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07681981436179673834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-53383047516576701032009-07-16T15:43:08.406-04:002009-07-16T15:43:08.406-04:00Oh, if they ever invent a pill that will haul your...Oh, if they ever invent a pill that will haul your ass to the gym, I am going to buy a stockpile!<br /><br />Kathy, I think we're in agreement that CI=CO doesn't always work. Or I'm confused too. But starvation mode means your body slows down the metabolic rate trying to conserve energy, i.e. the Calories Out part is lower than before. Which is one reason why I tend to gnash my teeth when people say this stuff is simple. <br /><br />Sorry about the archaic verb form. :)The Merryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09660495393832517684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-73004861864339120302009-07-16T15:37:29.359-04:002009-07-16T15:37:29.359-04:00I had my neck zapped by radiation for treatment fo...I had my neck zapped by radiation for treatment for Hodgkin's lymphoma, and about a year later my thyroid decided it was, oof, verrrrry sleepy. So they put me on meds for it and it did indeed take a while to get the dosage right. I ended up going down a notch on the dosage because at the higher dose, my hair started falling out and my resting heart rate was about 95 -- not fun. But in terms of weight and energy, I didn't really notice how the pill affected it. What I DO notice is that when I'm eating healthily and working out, I feel much better. <br /><br />So thyroid problems are important to treat, but the pill won't haul your ass to the gym for you (alas). And I really wish there was some "natural" way to treat this stuff (I don't fancy being on a pill for the rest of my life), but I haven't found a good alternative. Stupid radiation! Although I suppose I should be grateful to it for, um, killing off the Hodgkin's. Then again, I'm into cranky fitness, so I have to be cranky about SOMETHING!annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06743498983836935225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-64667956839665523222009-07-16T15:17:59.272-04:002009-07-16T15:17:59.272-04:00Hmm, Merry, that was a little too deep for me at t...Hmm, Merry, that was a little too deep for me at the moment. And is there really such a tense as spake? (Damn, and in my real life I'm an editor!) So, I think what you're saying is that what I just said would support the idea that the theory of calories in = calories out is bogus, no? But if your body is working at a level that requires, say, 2,000 to 3,000 calories to operate efficiently, but you're only giving it 1,200, then the body will not use those 1,200 calories like it would 2,000 to 3,000 calories. Oh, never mind, I don't know what I'm saying. And now it's time for me to go to work and argue with people about whether it's speak/spoke/spake.Kathy Garmushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12975778367180073475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-39364201419187577142009-07-16T15:12:44.509-04:002009-07-16T15:12:44.509-04:00I share your definition for calculus.I share your definition for calculus.Saganhttp://livinghealthyintherealworld.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-43540739333852235612009-07-16T14:49:23.798-04:002009-07-16T14:49:23.798-04:00Kathy spake thusly:
some of the people who have co...Kathy spake thusly:<br /><i>some of the people who have commented here are not getting nearly enough calories for the amount of activity they're engaging in</i><br /><br />But isn't that the whole point of using Calories In = Calories Out as the basis of a weight loss theory?The Merryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09660495393832517684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-77024107993409334922009-07-16T14:42:05.170-04:002009-07-16T14:42:05.170-04:00I just thought I'd crash the party and play de...I just thought I'd crash the party and play devil's advocate by mentioning the Set Point Theory:<br /><br />http://weightloss.about.com/od/<br />glossary/g/setpoint.htm<br /><br />I'm not saying I believe the theory, just that it is a theory.<br /><br />Also, although I'm not a nutritionist or dietitian, it seems like some of the people who have commented here are not getting nearly enough calories for the amount of activity they're engaging in. In which case, the body can go into starvation mode and hoard all the calories it can get.Kathy Garmushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12975778367180073475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-7149134208315930002009-07-16T13:56:00.362-04:002009-07-16T13:56:00.362-04:00This subject is close to my heart and you put it r...This subject is close to my heart and you put it really well. Great post! I was futzing around for a month, gaining strength and muscle I don't doubt, but not losing any actual weight to speak of. I finally broke my plateau not by eating less (fingers in a cross of warding) but by avoiding carbs at night and increasing general activity. Let's see how long that formula works before I have to tweak it again.Larkspurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09979771406792393848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-52584223198509021832009-07-16T13:45:28.590-04:002009-07-16T13:45:28.590-04:00I tell people that yes, calories in/calories out i...I tell people that yes, calories in/calories out is PART of the equation but not all of it. For me, at least, I have learned along the way as I changed my food choices that certain foods work better for me than others & that even changes thru the years. I also have found that my protein/carb/fat ration also makes a difference. I do think there are some people that do better with more carbs & others not so much.<br /><br />For me, I have always had to do much more than "the other person" to stay fit, to keep my weight off etc.<br /><br />Like Merry & Kar, it does not always come down to the exact science for me. Our bodies are all different & work different so I think it is not all this calories in/out. My experience has proved this.Jody - Fit at 51http://www.truth2beingfit.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-91353084339885552652009-07-16T12:46:00.063-04:002009-07-16T12:46:00.063-04:00I found that the best way to loose weight and stay...I found that the best way to loose weight and stay healthy is discipline. It is crucial to get the right information but the key ingredient is to stay focused and consistent with the actions. Go and do exercise there is no magical pill that will substitute workout, eat healthy, eat the right food and rip the benefits. You will become skinny. Playing sports is great way of shaping some parts of your body just be consistent. Do not starve yourself but eat healthy instead 5 times a day.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04326149452265649360noreply@blogger.com