tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post1046059221542029499..comments2024-03-15T04:01:53.036-04:00Comments on Cranky Fitness: Magic Weight Loss Pill, take twoCrabby McSlackerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-17328234147475526092009-02-27T22:46:00.000-05:002009-02-27T22:46:00.000-05:00I have to agree with LadyG -- the magic pill is ju...I have to agree with LadyG -- the magic pill is just DO it.<BR/><BR/>I always complained I couldn't lose the weight but I would start new attempts and then allow myself to fail and regain, then try again -- over and over and I thought, I can't do it, I'll never lose weight, I would do anything to lose it. Really? If you'd do ANYTHING to lose weight, then how about eat healthy and exercise? I mean every day -- just DO it, not try to do it or fail to do it or hope I'm motivated to do it -- just DO it. Motivated or not, whether I feel like it or not, I just eat right and exercise every day. Not only does it work, but if you keep doing it whether you want to or not, a strange thing happens -- you start to want to. All the time. Your habits, your lifestyle changes and you don't have to 'try' anymore because it's just what you do now. How you live now.Anna Down Underhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04261064688662047192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-78360564966700027342008-03-26T19:06:00.000-04:002008-03-26T19:06:00.000-04:00well if u have the money and are lazy, surgery jus...well if u have the money and are lazy, surgery just may be your best option. for the majority of us, some kind of pills would be more plausible.<BR/>~MikeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-13236621172658973802008-03-26T18:58:00.000-04:002008-03-26T18:58:00.000-04:00if it shrinks your stomach, is it a temporary thin...if it shrinks your stomach, is it a temporary thing? if not, is there a way to get it back to its normal size? o_O<BR/>~MariahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-82040529354035999422008-03-21T01:12:00.000-04:002008-03-21T01:12:00.000-04:00Yes.Yes.therapydochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05088184676439578876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-54072714494628123122008-03-20T20:27:00.000-04:002008-03-20T20:27:00.000-04:00Yes surgery should be a last resort!!There is alre...Yes surgery should be a last resort!!<BR/><BR/>There is already a FREE magic weight loss pill - well it's free, but costly in other ways: It's called PERSISTENCE.<BR/>Persistence to keep trying, keep learning, keep starting over, taking 2 steps forward and one back, and learning through it all what works for you. Good luck.Louise Wedgwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05621663940424760161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-31857964278183111732008-03-19T23:52:00.000-04:002008-03-19T23:52:00.000-04:00Wow, great discussion!I know at least one woman wh...Wow, great discussion!<BR/><BR/>I know at least one woman who had good results with surgery--but it requires a huge amount of diligence and a really restrictive diet to maintain her weight loss. Fortunately, she seems to be up for it.<BR/><BR/>Mattie, thanks so much for commenting! I don't know too much about Alli, even though I did some sort of smart-assed post about it when it first came out. (As I recall, there was a lot of amusement over the "leakage" side effect, but I believe I heard that the problem gets better for folks over time).<BR/><BR/>While I don't think it's any kind of miracle, my sense is that Alli has helped some folks who are doing all the right things about diet and exercise lose a bit faster, if they can tolerate the side effects. But<BR/>if you've done any research you probably know more than I do.<BR/><BR/>Good luck with your weight loss efforts. It's a really tough thing to tackle, but every little bit you accomplish will have a big impact on your health. I'm always impressed by the courage folks have to take those really hard steps to turn things around.Crabby McSlackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108791388350253344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-49794197574529028012008-03-19T23:50:00.000-04:002008-03-19T23:50:00.000-04:00I only know one person who's tried Alli. She's los...I only know one person who's tried Alli. She's lost about 40 pounds, looks better and acts happier than she did before. I don't know how well she adapted to the nasty side effects.<BR/>It seems to me that Alli, and most of these gastric surgeries, are all ways of physically enforcing good eating habits. For people who are morbidly obese, they <I>can</I> help. As Mattie points out, some people have had the surgeries and gone back to gaining weight again. Enforcing good behavior from without only works to a certain extent. If the person isn't willing to (or able to) change their behavior, they'll find a way around any obstruction.<BR/>We truly are an amazing species. A bit too ornery for our own good sometimes.The Merryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09660495393832517684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-7956658580080354272008-03-19T20:23:00.000-04:002008-03-19T20:23:00.000-04:00No. Just no. As a scientist who studies interact...No. Just no. As a scientist who studies interactions between our bodies and infectious agents, I've come to the conclusion that most bodily functions should not be messed with. <BR/><BR/>That being said, I'm sure some people could benefit from this type of drug. The question is, though, what will the long-term side effects be? That's not something I'd be willing to risk.Genahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05005093092821158706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-42709465521853877592008-03-19T18:56:00.000-04:002008-03-19T18:56:00.000-04:00I am morbidly obese. I have never been classified ...I am morbidly obese. I have never been classified as "normal weight." Ever.<BR/><BR/>With this in mind, I have considered weight loss surgery. But, I've considered it long enough to see those who have had it done have managed to bypass the bypass and begin gaining unhealthy levels of weight.<BR/><BR/>Besides, I am scared to death of going under the knife. Scared.to.death.<BR/><BR/>But I'd like to know how you feel about Alli. Or what do you know about it? Do you know of anyone who has tried it? <BR/><BR/>I enjoy your blog. Have for a long time.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16697720752336334879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-44613203423074296872008-03-19T17:53:00.000-04:002008-03-19T17:53:00.000-04:00You can shrink your stomach yourself - it's called...You can shrink your stomach yourself - it's called Intermittent Fasting:) No pills necessary. Although I won't say it's terribly easy. <BR/><BR/>I'm with you Merry - this kind of thing gives me the heebie jeebies.Charlottehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04339643338071382257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-66472598492913018692008-03-19T14:38:00.000-04:002008-03-19T14:38:00.000-04:00A pill that shrinks your tummy. Oh hell no don't m...A pill that shrinks your tummy. Oh hell no don't mess with our innards! What else would it shrink? Scary, scary. These lab coats and their frankenstine experiments frighten me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-1545990120523384032008-03-19T13:09:00.000-04:002008-03-19T13:09:00.000-04:00Dog forbid we should do anything natural when we c...Dog forbid we should do anything natural when we can live better through chemistry.Leah J. Utashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08497599109798015888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-47794082137493525172008-03-19T12:51:00.000-04:002008-03-19T12:51:00.000-04:00For the Right People, this is a solution.For the Right People, this is a solution.The Merryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09660495393832517684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-72221617393279863182008-03-19T12:50:00.000-04:002008-03-19T12:50:00.000-04:00That 600+ pound man that I'd worked with was not a...That 600+ pound man that I'd worked with was not a good candidate for the surgery, and for <I>him</I> I could certainly see these pills as a hopefully life-saving solution.The Merryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09660495393832517684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-76737240053977284272008-03-19T12:38:00.000-04:002008-03-19T12:38:00.000-04:00I don't know - there's a pill for everything just ...I don't know - there's a pill for everything just about now.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, there was a lot of criticism (and still is) when antidepressants became more available and more refined. After all, we should all be able to manage on our own, say the nay-sayers.<BR/><BR/>Problem is, antidepressants FOR THE RIGHT PEOPLE save lives. I'm wondering if that might be the case here.<BR/><BR/>Many morbidly obese people are not good candidates for surgery. If something like this could help them get down to a more healthy weight, then *maybe* it's not as bad an idea as it seems at first glance.Marijke Vroomen-Durninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14436563110710429784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-84357001172042847922008-03-19T12:23:00.000-04:002008-03-19T12:23:00.000-04:00OMG! I can't imagine taking that kind of pill. I a...OMG! I can't imagine taking that kind of pill. I already live in that crazy circle of prescriptions to cure something caused by the cure for something else. I can't help but think of Thalidimide(sp?) when I hear of new miracle drugs.Rebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05318594769530526005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-15794218907594574702008-03-19T12:18:00.000-04:002008-03-19T12:18:00.000-04:00Children? They're performing this surgery on child...Children? They're performing this surgery on <I>children</I>???!!!?!<BR/><BR/>No. I'm sorry. I know being fat in school can make life hell, but even so, no.<BR/><BR/>Dr. J, I have to say my uncle, much as I loved him, was partially responsible too. If he hadn't smoked so heavily for decades, he wouldn't have has such severe emphysema, which complicated his recovery from a fairly trivial accident.<BR/><BR/>I used to work at a company where several people had this bypass surgery. Most of them handled it well, though some didn't. But as a whole, the culture at that company was such that I was considered an exercise freak because I would walk to work. I lived less than a mile away. <BR/><BR/>My supervisor, a dear sweet woman, said she'd "tried everything" and couldn't lose weight without the surgery. She also lived less than a mile away. Always took her car.<BR/><BR/>I saw people at this company, including one man who was over 600 pounds (yes, seriously) who really needed medical intervention. But there were a lot of others who -- well, they took a shortcut.The Merryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09660495393832517684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-35958593910241713452008-03-19T12:09:00.000-04:002008-03-19T12:09:00.000-04:00This is definitely in the scary area. One can see ...This is definitely in the scary area. One can see a huge potential for abuse. Especially with those "save the calories for the beer later" girls. Wouldn't this type of pill be right up their alley?<BR/>Oh, and those health experts who are divided about why obesity is becoming more prevalent just need to take a good hard look at the lifestyle of previous generations and compare it to the current lifestyle. Duh.the Bag Ladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17434610508260994331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-81506472627578808112008-03-19T12:01:00.000-04:002008-03-19T12:01:00.000-04:00"Dr J would tell you that any surgery has some ris..."Dr J would tell you that any surgery has some risks."<BR/><BR/>True that!<BR/><BR/> I absolutely agree that weight loss surgery should be a last resort for anyone, especially children. The problem is, however, that many people are down to their last resort. For these individuals, surgical options can be helpful and quality-of-life saving. In these cases, reversible procedures like the lap-band, need to be considered as a first option, followed by the more permanent surgical alterations.<BR/><BR/>Merry, I'm very sorry to hear about your uncle.<BR/><BR/>Dr. JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-63460943620153422962008-03-19T11:45:00.000-04:002008-03-19T11:45:00.000-04:00I am with all of you...could not imagine taking or...I am with all of you...could not imagine taking or doing anything that would alter my innards. I know some folks do see bypass surgery as their only hope, but it does change things FOREVER. As far as miracle diet pills, remember phen fen??<BR/><BR/>MissicatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-56169388521329024002008-03-19T11:44:00.000-04:002008-03-19T11:44:00.000-04:00Technically the pill stops your stomach from expan...Technically the pill stops your stomach from expanding. Normally your stomach is a hollow area that can expand when you eat. If it expands too much you feel "full" and stop eating.<BR/><BR/>Thanks Crabby for posting this and for finding the graphic! (Crabby /always/ finds cool graphics. I'm jealous!)The Merryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09660495393832517684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-6134554248538904382008-03-19T11:39:00.000-04:002008-03-19T11:39:00.000-04:00This pill chemically shrinks your stomach?? I find...This pill <EM>chemically shrinks your stomach??</EM> I find that extremely creepy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-20658347241858910192008-03-19T11:28:00.001-04:002008-03-19T11:28:00.001-04:00Miracle pills are very miraculous...until 2 years ...Miracle pills are very miraculous...until 2 years later when they are recalled for causing liver damage. I few all pills with a suspicious eye.Nitmoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17108597328135023198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-6999968745090542662008-03-19T11:28:00.000-04:002008-03-19T11:28:00.000-04:00Keep in mind evolution is not an end point. Gener...Keep in mind evolution is not an end point. Generations previous had much less of a problem keeping fit and health experts are still divided on why obesity is becoming so prevalent.<BR/> <BR/>The fact that the book "Good Calories, Bad Calories" can exist and be 50% loved and 50% rejected as preposterous says something about scientists lack of understanding concerning the human body.<BR/><BR/>When someone has shot up to morbidly obese, the biggest concern is getting them back down to a healthy weight, and if there's a way to do that w/out invasive surgery or relying on diet/exercise plans which mostly fail (whether sooner or later), then all the better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1704170106558126102.post-91195941098288963032008-03-19T11:15:00.001-04:002008-03-19T11:15:00.001-04:00so many, not si many.oops.so many, not si many.<BR/>oops.Geosominhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15729167937433295927noreply@blogger.com